Greg Rzesniowiecki: How would it change the world, if the 9/11 Commission Report narrative is proven to be officially false?

Interviewed by

Lisa Er

Greg Rzesniowiecki: How would it change the world, if the 9/11 Commission Report narrative is proven to be officially false?

In this interview Greg Rzesniowiecki, aka Gregfullmoon, will refresh your memory about what actually happened on 9/11. You will find out about the inconsistencies in the official story, and why 9/11 should be considered a false flag, and how money is at the root of all such crises.

Greg has written the detailed notes below on the subject.

WHAT IS OFFICIAL INFORMATION?

Ask yourself what it would mean if the forensic truth of the 9/11 event became Official Information?

Were that to happen, then the arm of justice would be enabled to investigate, charge, and prosecute the perpetrators, and pronounce sentence.

Why would that matter? Well it may serve as a valuable deterrent to those who would undertake similar criminality, from further acts. The whole basis of the criminal justice system is to deter crime.

https://russiarobinson.wordpress.com/2014/06/03/classical-school-of-criminology-a-foundation-of-todays-criminal-justice-system/

TWO PROPOSITIONS:

A. Would criminal discovery and prosecution with suitable penalties, appropriate to the crime of mass murder, deter further terrorism efforts by state and state associated actors?

B. One way to consider the question is to argue the opposite point by inferring that no criminal discovery or prosecution will deter further terrorism by state and state associated actors.

Which of the above has a strong coherence with reality A or B?

AN APPROACH TO FIND TRUTH IN A SEA OF SPIN:

Greg asserts that there was a general rapprochement and trend toward de-escalation of aggression between the major powers at the turn of the century and millennium.

Kyoto and UN Millennium Goals are indicative of this trend.

FALSE FLAGS – WHY CREATE A CRISIS WHERE ONE DIDN’T EXIST?

Previously Governments and powerful actors have used false flag events as a means to disrupt the peace and move history in a particular direction.

To make the case about False Flags take a few minutes to appreciate that these are common and often perpetrated by government actors: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/58-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html

9/11 WHAT OCCURRED?

In penetrating to the truth one needs to review the evidence and conflicting theories that are proffered to explain the evidence. Make sure one looks at all of the evidence, and that one can discriminate between factual and counterfactual.

What happened on 9/11 see timeline below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks and,

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&day_of_9/11=dayOf911

9/11 OFFICIAL TIMELINE

7:59a.m. American Airlines Flight 11, a Boeing 767 carrying 81 passengers and 11 crew members, departs 14 minutes late from Logan International Airport in Boston, bound for Los Angeles International Airport. Five hijackers are aboard.

8:14 United Airlines Flight 175, a Boeing 767, carrying 56 passengers and nine crew members, departs 14 minutes late from Logan International Airport in Boston, bound for Los Angeles International Airport. Five hijackers are aboard.

8:14 Flight 11 is hijacked over central Massachusetts, turning southwest.

8:20 American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 with 58 passengers and six crew members, departs 10 minutes late from Washington Dulles International Airport, for Los Angeles International Airport. Five hijackers are aboard.

8:42 United Airlines Flight 93, a Boeing 757 with 37 passengers and seven crew members, departs 42 minutes late from Newark International Airport, bound for San Francisco International Airport. Four hijackers are aboard.

8:42–8:46 (approx.) Flight 175 is hijacked above Albany, New York, about 140 miles north of New York City, turning south.

8:46:40 Flight 11 crashes into the north face of the North Tower (1 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 93 and 99. The aircraft enters the tower intact.

8:50–8:54 (approx.) Flight 77 is hijacked above southern Ohio, turning to the southeast.

9:03:00 Flight 175 crashes into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 77 and 85. Parts of the plane, including the starboard engine, leave the building from its east and north sides, falling to the ground six blocks away.

9:28m Flight 93 is hijacked above northern Ohio, turning to the southeast.

9:37:46 Flight 77 crashes into the western side of The Pentagon and starts a violent fire.

9:45 United States airspace is shut down.

9:59:00 The South Tower of the World Trade Center collapses, 56 minutes after the impact of Flight 175.

10:03:11 Flight 93 is crashed by its hijackers and passengers, due to fighting in the cockpit 80 miles (129 km) southeast of Pittsburgh in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. Later reports indicate that passengers had learned about the World Trade Center and Pentagon crashes and were resisting the hijackers. The 9/11 Commission believed that Flight 93's target was either the United States Capitol building or the White House in Washington, D.C.

10:28:22 The North Tower of the World Trade Center collapses, 1 hour, 42 minutes after the impact of Flight 11. The Marriott Hotel, located at the base of the two towers, is also destroyed.

10:50:19 Five stories of part of the Pentagon collapse due to the fire.

5:20:33 p.m. 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building, collapses (from Wikipedia;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks )

MOTIVE:

Motive is the same as it always is... create a crisis and profit from it... the fact that this one has been in the making for decades or longer doesn't lessen the truth of the motive nor the reality of it... control and profit.

This time the crisis is large enough to ensure the solution is global.

The same interests stopped or disrupted the Kyoto settlement.

The world was heading toward a rapprochement at the end of the 20th Century. For "the Enterprise" to profit requires heightened insecurity.

There's more to the motive that I cannot yet say with any certainty, however I keep digging with open eyes and allowing the truth to come in.

One issue is the money gone/lost/misappropriated/redirected from the Pentagon budget announced by Rumsfeld the day before 9/11, US$2.3 trillion. The number is over 6 trillion now and unlikely to be sorted before 2020 or some such. Where is that going, or getting siphoned too?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-audit-army/u-s-army-fudged-its-accounts-by-trillions-of-dollars-auditor-finds-idUSKCN10U1IG

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-cannot-account-for-6-5-trillion-dollars/5541244

And the cost of the wars? Who gets that?

https://sputniknews.com/us/201709291057824332-us-defense-department-more-lies/

http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2016/Costs%20of%20War%20through%202016%20FINAL%20final%20v2.pdf

http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/lbilmes/files/the_financial_legacy_of_afghanistan.pdf

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/05/29/How-Will-We-Pay-6-Trillion-Bill-Wars-Iraq-and-Afghanistan

THE MOTIVE IS HOW TO GET THE US INTO WAR:

War on Terror is the war to divide and conquer the world for those who are creative enough to imagine it and bold enough to do the deed.

My paper in April 2016 to the Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade (FADT) NZ Parliamentary select committee's TPP treaty examination, is essential to appreciate the extent to which the US economy has been gutted and turned to reliance on munitions and security manufacturing and service provision. It addresses the post WW2 history and considers the plan laid out in the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) report; “Rebuilding America's Defenses” against that which is observed in the post 9/11 wars and the catalysing event or “new Pearl Harbour” crisis event that the report prophesised:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ix8z0zguuf7h66/US%20%E2%80%93%20%20Aotearoa%20NZ%20Values%20-%20Do%20These%20Correlate.pdf?dl=0

Not only that - the whole war on terror became an opportunity to outsource or privatise the war making effort to companies such as the multinational corporation Halliburton, and the mercenaries across Afghanistan and Iraq etc..

The Rebuilding America's Defenses report advocated for a huge increase in military spending, preparedness and capacity to both transform the military and fight on multiple fronts/theatres... it was prophetic on so many levels that it must be considered a model, blueprint, or designer wish list.

Wesley Clark's evidence of the War planning at the Pentagon, is also telling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

War economy on steroids = What is war about???

Ask Gen. Smedley Butler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nStSg75BNY

I came across his career in 2006/7. I wrote this in Nov 2007 on the eve of Armistice Day and then didn't write anything else for a few years, saying to myself what else is there to say... see essay "Lest We Forget"

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7miq7ia5nfzwbl5/Lest%20We%20Forget.pdf?dl=0

My first bit of research into 911 was November 2006. (not all the links work anymore):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tpr03n4ni602h05/911%20The%20Greatest%20Lie.pdf?dl=0

LESSONS:

Unless the 9/11 truth is properly considered, in all its ruthless genocidal ugliness, through Official Investigation and Justice systems, the litany of false flag events, already scorched into the history of power relations in the world, will continue. Our digression into criminal justice informs that opinion.

What to do about it?

What needs to happen to circumvent odious control of the Earth and its people?

KEY POINTS:

Whom ever controls the world, and "hijacked our peace with 9/11", then controls our NZ deep state.

It co-opted the US state and made it go to war for a lie!

Who said go 9/11? Answer this question and help the world toward peace!

9/11 and our alliance with the UK/US Empire got the NZ Defence force Community into the so-called Terrorist War on Afghanistan inOctober 2001, and Iraq in 2003, despite the NZ Government knowing that the Iraq war was criminal.

HOW GREG SEES IT:

The following is an essay I wrote December 2016 hi-lighting the material I've placed before the NZ Government, and the Official Information requests I've made, regarding what the government knew about 9/11,which are blocked from release by virtue of the Catch 22 nature of the Official Information Act provisions 6 a and b.

http://values-compasspointsinaposttruthworld.blogspot.co.nz/2016/12/working-on-open-egalitarian-and.html

LIFTING THE LID BIT BY BIT:

The lid appears to be lifted a little by elements of the semi-independent agencies and elements, however none in any serious media are looking at 9/11 truth. Wikileaks provides this... 9/11 pager transcripts from the day:

https://911.wikileaks.org/files/index.html which requires a lot of time to get across.

And others talk about Wikieaks in these terms on 9/11:

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-annoyed-911-truth

GATEKEEPERS KEEPING 9/11 TRUTH SUPPRESSED – why do they do this?

George Monbiot and Noam Chomsky both go out of their way to belittle 9/11 conspiracy theorists, however people have done work to refute or rebut their rubbish:

Chomsky: https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/11/analysis-of-the-sophistry-of-noam-chomsky-on-911/

Monbiot explains why he believes the official version in 2007:

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2017/846-george-monbiot-responds-on-syria.html

FAKE NEWS AND CONSPIRACY THEORISING:

Noticed the campaign commence in the immediate aftermath of Trump's election, with this article by Andrew Smith at the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/25/pedlars-fake-news-corroding-democracy-social-networks....to which I wrote the following critique and attempted to engage the Guardian comments moderators, who deleted my comment from the article.

http://values-compasspointsinaposttruthworld.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/pot-calls-kettle-black-hypocrisy-of.html

HOW PEOPLE CAN ASSIST WITH THE DISPERSAL OF 9/11 TRUTH:

Inform oneself about the forensic truth of the event.

The perpetrators used nuclear devices amongst other agents to achieve the observed destruction.

That one piece of information might be difficult to digest, however, what else accounts for the thousands of cancer deaths and diseases suffered by WTC First Responders, Ground Zero Workers, residents and workers from the WTC complex vicinity, particularly those in the path of the toxic dust cloud created with the steel and concrete of the WTC building structures:

http://911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html

Christopher Bollyn's Solving 9/11" gets us to the Zionist connections to the event including fingerprints of the various IT, Intelligence and Security interests with so-called Israeli connections to the event:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Solving_9-11.pdf

In terms of evidence - "911 Research" is a repository of 9/11 discourse, evidence, photo, video, reports and assessments most of which were generated by 2006:

http://911research.wtc7.net/

Note 911 Research does not promote the no-jetliner thesis, however the evidence store is extensive, including the reports on the movement of WTC steel etc to the "Killing Fields" temporary storage site. Note Killing Fields and associated areas display high radioactivity.

There is the evidence of insider trading suggesting foreknowledge of the event. However the crime is larger than that.

A writer with the pseudonym EP Heidner wrote an extensive paper entitled "Collateral Damage" which highlights "the Enterprise and it's NSA/CIA connectivity and the relation to the so-called Japanese and German war treasures, known as the "Black Eagle Trust". Heidner makes the point that the Office of Naval Intelligence was investigating various securities when most of those from the office were killed on 9/11 - they were housed in the area of the Pentagon that the missile went into.... perhaps Heidner was a survivor or close to the investigation - that's one mystery, available at links:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/9442970/Collateral-Damage-U-S-Covert-Operations-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-2001-28062008

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Collateral_Damage_-_part_1.pdf

None of the above offer a whole truth, however each adds something to the jigsaw..

IT IS CLEAR THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE IS FALSE:

This fact in itself requires that truth be discovered and uncovered given the consequences as the US and its coalition of willing genocidal maniacs laid waste to the near East nations, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya and Syria, now Yemen with the tension being ramped up on Iran and particularly North Korea.

We need brave people bearing truth to take over the Official Information channels creating the ground for a full investigation of the 9/11 event.

HOW DO WE EMPLOY OUR INTEREST IN 9/11 TO ‘MOBILISE FOR JAIL’ FOR THE PERPETRATORS:

1. Forensic Investigation

2. A commission of inquiry with power to summon anyone to provide anything in order to find the truth.

3. Global jurisdiction to arrest, detain and deliver to justice any so ordered by the commission.

4. An international panel of jurists to hear the charges and determine sentencing and any liabilities in relation to losses whether human, community, public or private assets, any damage to environments or any other losses that can be reasonably argued such as damage to future generations of the above, through toxic or radioactive or other damage incurred through the 9/11 fall out.

5. The commission of inquiry is further charged with discovering hidden social, political, cultic, Masonic, religious, or other associations, and or networks public, private, government, mafia, or criminal that enabled the 9/11 event, it's transmission, commission, silence, andcomplicity both before and after, and anything circumstantial that the commission so determines, in order to establish clear conclusions about the conspiracy.

6. The commission is requested to make recommendations to all about how to ensure there are no further repeats.

STATEMENT OF INTENT:

The clear requirement is that the people of the planet can no longer be held to ransom or terrorism by any entity.

BIO:

Greg Rzesniowiecki, aka Gregfullmoon, has evolved to fill the role of public advocate specifically on behalf of the public interest concerning the TPP. As is evident in the interview Greg has a wide set of interests which contribute to his perspective and worldview.

Born in Australia, and having worked in engineering and as a union organiser, Greg moved to Motueka where he was a member of the Renewables a local climate action group. He quickly came to realise that unpacking the 9/11 event would have profound implications for public perception of their governments and the governance of the planet.

Greg has spent considerable effort informing himself about the 9/11 evidence and what that means in respect to how the event was conceived, developed, and implemented and the consequences that flow from the conspiracy to punk the US government and people into believing the Muslim terrorists hijacking 4 planes and crashing them into US assets.

Appreciating the 9/11 truth allows one to appreciate that your government is not your friend!

It lies to cover up the 9/11 truth.

It lies to covering up illegal war making and criminal aggression.

This interview was sponsored by The Awareness Party.

ADDENDUM:

PSYCHOLOGY DEPARTMENTS BECOMING ACTIVE IN ATTEMPTING TO DEMONISE CONSPIRACY THEORISING AND INVESTIGATION- two instances amongst many:

1. Paper by three psychology professors, "Connecting the dots: Illusory pattern perception predicts belief in conspiracies and the supernatural"

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ejsp.2331/epdf

The paper's premise is that the Official 9/11 narrative is the whole truth! When was that tested in academia? The paper is peer reviewed...to which I responded with;

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7s5p7ikb6k58g8/Gmail%20-%20Your%20paper_%20_Connecting%20the%20dots_%20Illusory%20pattern%20perception%20predicts%20belief%20in%20conspiracies%20and%20the%20supernatural_.pdf?dl=0

2. https://theconversation.com/why-people-believe-in-conspiracy-theories-and-how-to-change-their-minds-82514 The author Professor Mark Lorch of Hull University also refused to engage.

Also a complete think tank on the subject of conspiracy theorising in Europe is curtailing free speech:

https://twitter.com/COST_conspiracy/status/911152729262829568

http://www.cost.eu/COST_Actions/ca/CA15101

http://www.cost.eu/COST_Actions/ca/CA15101?management

Note: two (2) of the authors of the paper ,"Connecting the dots: Illusory pattern perception predicts belief in conspiracies and the supernatural" are on the COST Comparative Analysis of Conspiracy Theories (COMPACT) action committee... who's job is to...

...”this Action will adopt a comparative approach, investigating the causes, manifestations and effects of conspiracy theories in different regions and times, and drawing on insights from history, politics, sociology, anthropology, cultural studies and psychology. The Action will pursue the inquiry in three broad areas: the manifestations and modes of transmission of conspiracy theory in different historical and cultural contexts; the variety of actors and audiences involved in the production and consumption of conspiracy theories; and the psychological and cultural causes and political consequences of belief in conspiracy. Working closely with stakeholders, this Action will build a better understanding of conspiracy theories in order to develop an effective response to them.”

At no point do they investigate the veracity of the Official Information that the conspiracy theory might question, or refute... i.e. the investigation of what happened to cause the 9/11 destruction experienced. Thus the psychology paper is bogus and unsubstantiated – it ought to not have been published.

Greg.

 



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Lisa Er

Lisa Er

Born in the UK Lisa emigrated with her parents to New Zealand at the age of 16. Already politically active Lisa has continued to have a passionate interest in peace, politics, and the philosophy behind what we do.

A primary school teacher for 14 years, Lisa then turned her hand to business and created the well known Lisa's Hummus, which she sold a few years ago. Now Lisa is immersed in creating a better political system via www.theawarenessparty.com

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